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king wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:31 pm I'll stick with petrol. I ain't going to be trapped in an EV when it catches fire.


Electric car fire statistics UK


EV fires aren't a common occurrence. According to Honeywell Safety and Productivity Solutions, 239 fires recorded in the UK from July 2022 to June 2023 were linked to EVs.

While this is an 83% increase year on year, it’s important to note the number has increased along with the increasing presence of EVs on our roads.

Meanwhile, according to Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service, some 1898 fires in 2019 were from petrol and diesel vehicles and 54 were from EVs.

Another study by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency found that EVs are 20 times less likely to catch fire than ICE cars.

An additional study by that agency and an American insurer found that just 25 out of 100,000 EVs suffer fire damage.

By comparison, 1530 per 100,000 ICE cars experience fire, and hybrid vehicles suffer a much higher risk of 3475 per 100,000​​​​.
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my 3ltr diesel is just fine my 2ltr diesel before was good but this one makes you smile more lol
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Yea, I was diesel before going electric

I only have to wiggle my toes in the Audi and "whoooosh" its gone!
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MIL wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:36 pm
king wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:31 pm I'll stick with petrol. I ain't going to be trapped in an EV when it catches fire.


Electric car fire statistics UK


EV fires aren't a common occurrence. According to Honeywell Safety and Productivity Solutions, 239 fires recorded in the UK from July 2022 to June 2023 were linked to EVs.

While this is an 83% increase year on year, it’s important to note the number has increased along with the increasing presence of EVs on our roads.

Meanwhile, according to Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service, some 1898 fires in 2019 were from petrol and diesel vehicles and 54 were from EVs.

Another study by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency found that EVs are 20 times less likely to catch fire than ICE cars.

An additional study by that agency and an American insurer found that just 25 out of 100,000 EVs suffer fire damage.

By comparison, 1530 per 100,000 ICE cars experience fire, and hybrid vehicles suffer a much higher risk of 3475 per 100,000​​​​.
But ICE fires are less serious.

Toxic fumes: EV fires release toxic fumes, including hydrogen fluoride, which can be fatal to humans.
Chain reactions: A parking garage full of EVs could potentially cause a chain reaction.
Damage to property: EV fires can cause extensive damage to property.

And do your Electric car fire statistics include
A fire at Luton Airport in 2023 destroyed 1,400 vehicles.
A fire at King's Dock in Liverpool in 2018 destroyed 1,150 vehicles.
And the Cargo ship carrying 3,000 cars that caught fire in North Sea?
ALL caused by EV fires.
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Let me ask you this King

Have you had to attend fires of cars with people inside (just happened to be petrol cars) ?

It's a simple Yes/No answer I'm looking for
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Murray wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:52 am
MIL wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:17 am I've got a 2024 Audi Q4 e-Tron (40) Sportback

Since moving to Electric there's no way I'll ever go back to petrol/diesel again

I can do over 300 miles on 1 charge and living in the Midlands that puts me in reach of everywhere I need to go

Been to Southampton and back on 1 charge, York and back on 1 charge etc



Being with Octopus Energy its p!ss cheap to charge up overnight between 23:30 and 05:30

I reckon I save well over £2,000 a year on fuel now
Yea some of those electric cars are very nice. But you couldn't have one here. They are obsessed with dismantling the power grid and going "Green". Electricity is becoming very expensive and the supply unreliable.
They can't give them away.
And I just saw this. The Federal government is pushing electric cars despite the fact they aren't practical given the long distances to travel here.
Meanwhile the state government in Victoria are determined to have all alternative power. So everybody will have an electric car but will not be able to run it.
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MIL wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:48 pm Let me ask you this King

Have you had to attend fires of cars with people inside (just happened to be petrol cars) ?

It's a simple Yes/No answer I'm looking for
Why would I attend? You went down the statistics route. The Chinese government have banned the filming of EV fires. The BBC failed to cover the North Sea ferry fire, and the UK government quickly talked down the Luton airport fire, despite the cause being the same EV model as the Liverpool fire. The recent EV caused fire at a car park near a airport in Portugal also failed to get reported by the BBC, see a patten ?
And whilst the numbers of EV v ICE cars maybe be lower due to actual numbers on the road at present, EV pose a bigger risk to health when they are involved.
My original post was not even to you Mike.
I'll stick with petrol. I ain't going to be trapped in an EV when it catches fire. Which I posted because many have died (mainly in Tesla's) when in a total power outage prevented them from getting out of the car when the cars caught fire.
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Murray wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:37 pm
Murray wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:52 am
MIL wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:17 am I've got a 2024 Audi Q4 e-Tron (40) Sportback

Since moving to Electric there's no way I'll ever go back to petrol/diesel again

I can do over 300 miles on 1 charge and living in the Midlands that puts me in reach of everywhere I need to go

Been to Southampton and back on 1 charge, York and back on 1 charge etc



Being with Octopus Energy its p!ss cheap to charge up overnight between 23:30 and 05:30

I reckon I save well over £2,000 a year on fuel now
Yea some of those electric cars are very nice. But you couldn't have one here. They are obsessed with dismantling the power grid and going "Green". Electricity is becoming very expensive and the supply unreliable.
They can't give them away.
And I just saw this. The Federal government is pushing electric cars despite the fact they aren't practical given the long distances to travel here.
Meanwhile the state government in Victoria are determined to have all alternative power. So everybody will have an electric car but will not be able to run it.
And one of the early wind farms has reached the end of it's life. It must be dismantled.
It has been disclosed that during it's whole existence, being constructed, operated and now demolished, it has cost far far more than the value of electricity it produced.
It has been a total failure, in fact it has been a disaster. As they all will prove to be.
The government have been very quiet about it and are reported to be "very angry" that it has leaked out.
I bet they are :D :lol: :lol:
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king wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:34 pm
MIL wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:48 pm Let me ask you this King

Have you had to attend fires of cars with people inside (just happened to be petrol cars) ?

It's a simple Yes/No answer I'm looking for
Why would I attend? You went down the statistics route. The Chinese government have banned the filming of EV fires. The BBC failed to cover the North Sea ferry fire, and the UK government quickly talked down the Luton airport fire, despite the cause being the same EV model as the Liverpool fire. The recent EV caused fire at a car park near a airport in Portugal also failed to get reported by the BBC, see a patten ?
And whilst the numbers of EV v ICE cars maybe be lower due to actual numbers on the road at present, EV pose a bigger risk to health when they are involved.
My original post was not even to you Mike.
I'll stick with petrol. I ain't going to be trapped in an EV when it catches fire. Which I posted because many have died (mainly in Tesla's) when in a total power outage prevented them from getting out of the car when the cars caught fire.


You do tickle me King - thank you for that.
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And while we are speaking of electric things, a few years ago we were all switched to "smart meters".
I was very unhappy. I warned people this is a bad thing. Now it has come out that since the government have slashed and destabilized the power grid, they are planning to remotely reduce the power of people's air conditioning on hot days. And they have the ability to chose who gets their cooling cut off. One might need to be careful about what you say in public about the government. Or in private for that matter.
Big brother, anyone?
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