Good point mate
Plus my thinking is I don’t want my fast cocks going over 5/6 hours really
The hens will not be considered for these races and as I never had them
I can’t miss them so feeding will be totally different
Mark B has kindly told me exactly what he feeds I know our feeding for the Bergerac cock and Jimmy B told me his feeding for France
He’s put in my head you can’t feed a pigeon up and down each week for sprint race then a distance race and expect it to win at 500 miles so suggested I do one thing and not two if the competition is hot
So the hens idea came into play which then I thought how do I get the cocks not to stress if his hen is lost
That got me to this try out system in time for 2026
Will you be ready
Yes Andy I hate the first 2/3 times they go out what with yearlings being 99 per cent of this team
Minor news, old Tonto, the pied Thone' hen, did hatch a pair of tiny weeny babies this morning. I am pleased.Murray wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:49 am I said I was going to stop breeding at Christmas time. I lied.
Iv'e got a big single baby grizzle, and two pairs of babies under the Heremans x Jannsen type pigeons. And the old pied Jos Thone' hen, who I thought was really finished after the red pied youngster she raised is on eggs, and I'm pretty sure they are fertile!Bonus if they are. I don't know why but she looks terrific for an old pigeon. Really doing well all of a sudden. And she's laid two eggs and they are nice and smooth and shiny.
After this lot I am definitely, certainly, absolutely going to stop for the year![]()
I haven't separated any but a couple of pairs have stopped with the days drawing in.
Very small but wriggly, I'm just about to go out and have another peek at them

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One of our top widowhood flyers only puts a few hens in with his cocks on basketing day just to get the blood pumping, itbworks for him.NeilA wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:39 amYep it’s different to the normal but they definitely defend the box the sameMIL wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:33 am Fun times lie ahead Neil
You've come through a pre-season now that lacked the normal structure and clarity.
Now, though this is where the business end of the season starts.
The cocks can start to get some sort of routine, fitness and conditioning into them and it's at this point of the season where things used to really get my blood pumping - getting ready to rock from Race 1
If they do bond with different hens and that stays with them as 21 of the 24 are yearlings and if not being to concerned what hen they attract to the box becomes normal for them it will allow me the plan to send the hens to 250-450 miles without the fear of a hen being lost so much as hopefully he can bond with another quickly
If it’s a flop well then atleast I tried it and in the situation I was I didn’t really have a lot of choice
You won't see coxidiousis as this is in the stomach, but you'd soon see canker as that's normally in the throat and very easy to spot and smell !!NeilA wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:35 amBeen very damp and cold this winterMurray wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:37 am When I saw you were about to embark on a medication program my teeth gritted, but then I remembered you are not in a warm, dry sunny place like I am. After a long cold wet winter like you are having, I bow to your knowledge of what you need to do.
I only use medication if I really need to. But I seldom need to. The dry is beneficial.
Plus i couldn’t tell if they had canker well I don’t believe anyone can without the skill of a microscope so I blind treat
The system is set out worms been done twice, cocci once
So 4 main things all blind treatments
Then monthly swab and dropping samples sent off starting the 8th of April
Respo will be treated blind every 3 weeks from April to July then nothing to March 2026
I'm not knocking you for treating though, as of course you won't see it until it's taken hold so prevention is better than cure.