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Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 11:28 am
by MIL
Murray wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:29 am
Yes he is a very good pigeon.
Of course you have to take my word for it.
This is the problem. I could tell you he is a 53 time Fed winner and father of all sorts of winners. He isn't, but you don't know that.

I see it quite often Murray where people say they've done this and they've done that - but I see no real evidence of it though

At least when I say a pigeon has done this I evidence it

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:30 pm
by NeilA
MIL wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:06 am
NeilA wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:53 am Very nice
The first one was some yearling vdb ?

Proper pigeon photos unlike the false photos you see now in adverts much prefer these

They were all Van Den Bosche Neil; the Blue Nantes cock had a Meuleman Janssen father though (that I paid £15 for)

The first one was a cock I called "Big Daddy Cool". He was a proper unit. Too big really.

He came along at just the right time I guess because if he was born in say 91 or 92 he'd have struggled to make the team

But he was a good 'un sure enough.



That 47 member Open Race he won was a 1 Bird Race. Each member pays £10 entry and only allowed to send 1 pigeon

Best v Best. Man v Man. No room for error. Get it wrong and you're late.

The majority of those races I went into I won.
Fantastic performance birds

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:54 pm
by king
NeilA wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:55 am
Devo1956 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:49 am
NeilA wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:34 am

Trouble is most sales on the internet are 5 day jobs so your trusting a fake photo if your buying that way which I think most do these days .
I would say just on the two main auction sites here 100’s are sold weekly and I don’t see many people doing the loft visits in the time frame
I have fell for it myself I moved one on within 3 hours of the box arriving more fool me
Neil I agree with you, but at the same time it is promoting the racing pigeon sport. Before I left for Germany the last trip. I was working on where I wanted to buy birds from for the German classic OLR. I had offers from top flyers over there to breed me some youngsters. In the end I chose to Visit Christoph and Leon, and I do feel I chose well. I would say a great family to visit , and top quality birds to choose from. I have to add, very nice a visit I enjoyed and sharing information about the sport in different countries.....

I don’t mean I dislike any particular fanciers fake photos Devo I wasn’t even thinking of Leon
I just don’t think they should be used for internet only sales
I couldn’t care what people hang on there wall they can colour them
In however they like but selling is different to me
Yes 100% agree. When selling these photo fit pics should NOT be allowed. Any buyer under the The Trade Descriptions Act 1968 ('Images and photos cannot be used in a way that is misleading')

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:05 pm
by Devo1956
king wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:54 pm
NeilA wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:55 am
Devo1956 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:49 am

Neil I agree with you, but at the same time it is promoting the racing pigeon sport. Before I left for Germany the last trip. I was working on where I wanted to buy birds from for the German classic OLR. I had offers from top flyers over there to breed me some youngsters. In the end I chose to Visit Christoph and Leon, and I do feel I chose well. I would say a great family to visit , and top quality birds to choose from. I have to add, very nice a visit I enjoyed and sharing information about the sport in different countries.....

I don’t mean I dislike any particular fanciers fake photos Devo I wasn’t even thinking of Leon
I just don’t think they should be used for internet only sales
I couldn’t care what people hang on there wall they can colour them
In however they like but selling is different to me
Yes 100% agree. When selling these photo fit pics should NOT be allowed. Any buyer under the The Trade Descriptions Act 1968 ('Images and photos cannot be used in a way that is misleading')
King that is why I stated, if I see a bird I feel I would like, a visit to the loft to check bird before I buy it.

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:17 pm
by MIL
You'll see that most auction sites now have in their T & C that images have been altered via Photoshop and to gauge the pigeon at its most accurate to look at the video presented. All there in the T & C whixh registered members agree to at point of registration.

If you don't read or don't like then don't join. Simples

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:29 pm
by Andy
Devo1956 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:24 am Just a question to members, over the past years we have seen different racing pigeons online, in books and magazines. We are looking for what we feel is the best for our loft to enrich the blood, and hopefully breed future winners and breeders. So people go about it in different ways, I would say still promoting the sport.

Example of this photo, would this photo entice you to pick up the phone and enquire..

No not at all Devo. That photo doesn’t even make sense. Firstly it suggests that the are a foundation pair, one youngster possibly mentioned. Looking at it it says the cock is a 2019 bird and the hen a 2020 bird. Yet it’s suggesting that they produced the winner of the 2015 one million dollar race?? How can that be.

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:35 pm
by Spieker-Loft
Andy wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:29 pm
Devo1956 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:24 am Just a question to members, over the past years we have seen different racing pigeons online, in books and magazines. We are looking for what we feel is the best for our loft to enrich the blood, and hopefully breed future winners and breeders. So people go about it in different ways, I would say still promoting the sport.

Example of this photo, would this photo entice you to pick up the phone and enquire..

No not at all Devo. That photo doesn’t even make sense. Firstly it suggests that the are a foundation pair, one youngster possibly mentioned. Looking at it it says the cock is a 2019 bird and the hen a 2020 bird. Yet it’s suggesting that they produced the winner of the 2015 one million dollar race?? How can that be.
It does make sense Maybe because i understand everything on it because some is german but at the same time it is very badly made to understand. Basically That picture is a breeding couple and to my understanding then hen on the right is a daughter of sanjay 2015 SAMDPR Winner the cock on the left has nothing to do with sanjay at all but yeah its very badly made and easily missunderstood and unclear i definitely agree

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:56 pm
by MIL
Its not a pair that get my juices flowing to be honest

Each to his own

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:22 pm
by Andy
Spieker-Loft wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:35 pm
Andy wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:29 pm
Devo1956 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:24 am Just a question to members, over the past years we have seen different racing pigeons online, in books and magazines. We are looking for what we feel is the best for our loft to enrich the blood, and hopefully breed future winners and breeders. So people go about it in different ways, I would say still promoting the sport.

Example of this photo, would this photo entice you to pick up the phone and enquire..

No not at all Devo. That photo doesn’t even make sense. Firstly it suggests that the are a foundation pair, one youngster possibly mentioned. Looking at it it says the cock is a 2019 bird and the hen a 2020 bird. Yet it’s suggesting that they produced the winner of the 2015 one million dollar race?? How can that be.
It does make sense Maybe because i understand everything on it because some is german but at the same time it is very badly made to understand. Basically That picture is a breeding couple and to my understanding then hen on the right is a daughter of sanjay 2015 SAMDPR Winner the cock on the left has nothing to do with sanjay at all but yeah its very badly made and easily missunderstood and unclear i definitely agree
Thanks for clearing that up Leon.

Re: Photos of our racing pigeons

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:06 pm
by worm
I used to do them to best of my abilities for amal winners all were cut from pics I took no manipulation