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Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:41 pm
by NeilA
Spieker-Loft wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:36 pm
NeilA wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:35 pm I see Leon so you fly ybs only in the past that’s very good good results how big is your radius how many birds is your combine
Dont know the exact radius but id say first youngbird race of the season about 1300 pigeons raced give or take. We just got 5 new members this year in our combine so it got a little bump up in numbers which is good.
So a combine is like a federation here ?
We fly with 2500 in the feds local
Do you not have federation? Or go straight to combines
How many members / birds send to say the middle part of the old bird season in your combine
Out biggest combine in the northeast is about 25,000 it use to touch 40,000

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:42 pm
by NeilA
Spieker-Loft wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:38 pm The furthest distance by air between the 2 furthest away lofts is about 25 miles i guess
My federation is 12 miles by 20 miles
My combine 33 miles radius from a central point

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:47 pm
by Spieker-Loft
Im not sure how to explain this exactly but ill try my best.

For us Called RV is a collection of clubs which i thought is a combine in the UK
Then we have something called FG which is also on every race and is basically a list for everyone who transported and liberated together in the same area
Then there is RegG Which is regional group basically a collection of the RV's in a given area.
And then we have ReG which is the whole regional.

If i just look at the first Race with a price list for all of them the sizes of each are following

RV Was 23 fanciers 574 birds
FG was 82 fanciers 2073 birds
RegG was 104 Fanciers 2703 birds
Reg was 185 Fanciers 5121 birds

So you could have won 4x1st on 1 race if you did manage to win the 1st in the Reg. but not alot of people in germany do doubles and would just count it was 1st.

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:49 pm
by Spieker-Loft
The sport is in a massive decline here unfortunately i checked a price list from 7 years ago and it had more then double of the amount of fanciers and pigeons compared to nowdays... atleast in our RV numbers are dropping rapidly

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:57 pm
by NeilA
Spieker-Loft wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:47 pm Im not sure how to explain this exactly but ill try my best.

For us Called RV is a collection of clubs which i thought is a combine in the UK
Then we have something called FG which is also on every race and is basically a list for everyone who transported and liberated together in the same area
Then there is RegG Which is regional group basically a collection of the RV's in a given area.
And then we have ReG which is the whole regional.

If i just look at the first Race with a price list for all of them the sizes of each are following

RV Was 23 fanciers 574 birds
FG was 82 fanciers 2073 birds
RegG was 104 Fanciers 2703 birds
Reg was 185 Fanciers 5121 birds

So you could have won 4x1st on 1 race if you did manage to win the 1st in the Reg. but not alot of people in germany do doubles and would just count it was 1st.
No a collection of clubs is a federation in the uk a collection of federations is a combine . Some federations are not in combine some will send 3500-5000 birds as federations
Other federations are small due to small radius or decline in membership
So a Rv would be a very good club here mine has 13 members but you say a RV is a collection of clubs ?
fG would be like a fed
A combine would be a mix if the other two or in many cases twice the size

If a RV is a collection of clubs with 23 members how many members are in a club ?

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:58 pm
by NeilA
Spieker-Loft wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:49 pm The sport is in a massive decline here unfortunately i checked a price list from 7 years ago and it had more then double of the amount of fanciers and pigeons compared to nowdays... atleast in our RV numbers are dropping rapidly
Unfortunately it’s the same here we don’t have many years left racing into a local area

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:10 pm
by NeilA
Was your 3 wins Rv or Reg Leon ?
What would be a combine in Germany

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:38 pm
by Spieker-Loft
NeilA wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:10 pm Was your 3 wins Rv or Reg Leon ?
What would be a combine in Germany
RV because youngbirds are not raced in Reg in my region

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:38 pm
by Spieker-Loft
NeilA wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:57 pm
Spieker-Loft wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:47 pm Im not sure how to explain this exactly but ill try my best.

For us Called RV is a collection of clubs which i thought is a combine in the UK
Then we have something called FG which is also on every race and is basically a list for everyone who transported and liberated together in the same area
Then there is RegG Which is regional group basically a collection of the RV's in a given area.
And then we have ReG which is the whole regional.

If i just look at the first Race with a price list for all of them the sizes of each are following

RV Was 23 fanciers 574 birds
FG was 82 fanciers 2073 birds
RegG was 104 Fanciers 2703 birds
Reg was 185 Fanciers 5121 birds

So you could have won 4x1st on 1 race if you did manage to win the 1st in the Reg. but not alot of people in germany do doubles and would just count it was 1st.
No a collection of clubs is a federation in the uk a collection of federations is a combine . Some federations are not in combine some will send 3500-5000 birds as federations
Other federations are small due to small radius or decline in membership
So a Rv would be a very good club here mine has 13 members but you say a RV is a collection of clubs ?
fG would be like a fed
A combine would be a mix if the other two or in many cases twice the size

If a RV is a collection of clubs with 23 members how many members are in a club ?
My club is the biggets in our RV with about 10 members at the first race and about 400-500 pigeons

Re: Your thoughts members.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:42 pm
by NeilA
So the other clubs just have 13 members and 100/150 birds between them , that’s not good how many clubs are there in your RV