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Murray wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:45 amNo.

MIL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:26 am

NeilA wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:28 pm Take posts Mikes he put on
Now that blokes tried to help you he’ will help anyone that wants to win
He helped me
It’s golden advice
Yet you post how fanciers who get a good drop don’t get them on crap days
But you never and you don’t get them in good days
You have made reason after reason not to try Mikes advice not even a 5 mile training toss 3 nights that I said try
Yet have a pop at people who get a drop
That’s not right is it

Don't worry about it Neil

Andy neither wants nor takes my advice so he's had the last of any of that - regardless of how successful (or unsuccessful) those methods that he adopts are

NeilA wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:28 pm Take posts Mikes he put on
Now that blokes tried to help you he’ will help anyone that wants to win
He helped me
It’s golden advice
Yet you post how fanciers who get a good drop don’t get them on crap days
But you never and you don’t get them in good days
You have made reason after reason not to try Mikes advice not even a 5 mile training toss 3 nights that I said try
Yet have a pop at people who get a drop
That’s not right is it

MIL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:22 am

Andy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:53 pm

Funny how in a bad/hard race fanciers who have big drops each week really struggle for returns. They possibly get a small number together then the rest struggle. I would say that this is because most of the birds in these big drops are just followers and once detached from their loft mates they struggle.

And I would say Andy that you've very little appreciation of the effort and skill that a fancier puts in in order to get good multiple drops consistently.

2 guys who I help are Gordon Bros and Jimmy Dutton. Both very good at getting multiple drops regularly (and winning).

They're on their knees at the moment from the sheer effort needed (both physical and mental)

Early mornings, off the garden by 8am with all work and training done. I tell them 5 weeks more and you can rest for 6 months.

They don't look for excuses

Andy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:39 am

NeilA wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:28 pm Take posts Mikes he put on
Now that blokes tried to help you he’ will help anyone that wants to win
He helped me
It’s golden advice
Yet you post how fanciers who get a good drop don’t get them on crap days
But you never and you don’t get them in good days
You have made reason after reason not to try Mikes advice not even a 5 mile training toss 3 nights that I said try
Yet have a pop at people who get a drop
That’s not right is it

You totally miss understood my comment Neil. I wasn’t saying that fanciers who get good drops don’t get them on crap days as you state. I said they don’t get them in big numbers on these days and generally have more missing or very late in these races. These top fanciers will still get the leaders but those that have just followed their loft mates in earlier races.
You say I don’t get them on good days. I was top flyer in a 40 member club when I lived in Sussex. I moved to Cornwall and was top flyer in the club there. I have worked with livestock all of my life and was manager of one of the highest yielding dairy herds in the country. So to suggest I know nothing about racing or livestock isn’t true. Lucky you if you have time to put everything into your pigeons. Since moving to Somerset in 1999 and having my own business, firstly in farming and for the past 20 years with the shop I don’t get much time. I had 12 years out of the sport before coming back into it in 2016. At first I was aiming at just the nationals and classics at the distance but since the problems of trying to race over the channel I changed my plan. I joined the Glastonbury club last year and started my move to more sprint racing. Yes I didn’t get the best out of them last year although they didn’t do too bad. These are basically still my distance birds. I decided to change things during the winter changing to widowhood. I just have 12 widowhood boxes. I don’t have stock birds so my young bird team has to come from the first round from the races meaning I can’t breed many youngsters. Things were going ok until early in the season when we had the shock of our mum dying. Just the following week my wife’s aunt was taken into hospital. Roxanna spent most of the next 2 weeks at the hospital with me having to go down there straight from work after running the shop on my own all day. We haven’t had a holiday for 19 years, work 6 days a week, I don’t even get more than half an hour on a Saturday to hopefully see the first couple drop while leaving the wife in the shop. So yes lucky all you that get the chance of seeing your birds return. The only day we get off is a Sunday. The last 3 Sunday’s, and probably the next 3 at least, we are having to spend the day going back and forth to the dump clearing out Roxanna’s aunts house. I have much more important things to think about and needing of my time at present than pigeons.
So yes I am very offended by these comments.