Looks a bit tricky Saturday

[NeilA]

The south road fed here is 45 miles wide Andy
They race from the south west your area
Check Brian hawes results your see how to race pigeons I wish I could do what he can
Him and his wife are relentless train / brain wash / health / good pigeons
Fantastic fanciers
It’s hard work but it can be done he doesn’t give up if he breaks a finger nail and that’s a racer a master at work

[NeilA]

Take posts Mikes he put on
Now that blokes tried to help you he’ will help anyone that wants to win
He helped me
It’s golden advice
Yet you post how fanciers who get a good drop don’t get them on crap days
But you never and you don’t get them in good days
You have made reason after reason not to try Mikes advice not even a 5 mile training toss 3 nights that I said try
Yet have a pop at people who get a drop
That’s not right is it

[Murray]

Phil's are on Rebuild and Improver in the water

Progut and Entrobac on feed

What did they have on return to evening Mike

Sorry Neil I missed this. Been to a National Trust

They came back to Rebuild and Broncho Plus (Both Pigeon Vitality) in the water

They had Gemthepax and Probac on both feeds.

1st Feed on return Vanrobaey Diet Extra Nr 36

2nd Feed Vanrobaey 184

And, food for thought, from Ad Schaerlaeckens

ANOTHER ONE
I am often cynical about the frequent but completely unnecessary use of supplements.
That won't make any friends among the sellers of that stuff, but it will make people who stop giving away junk only to find that it was not only good for their wallets, they also started playing better.
Top players such as Ebben, Verkerk, de Bruijn, Thijs and vd Wouwer in particular tried products in the past that would improve form. Useless! 'Yes, but long distance is something else', I hear some people think.
AND THEN FUND?
The young stuntman on the marathon flights, Sil van Vliet, proves the opposite.
There are no supplements, recovery agents or useless medicines for his stunt pilots on the marathon flights. And where does one know a program that is as tough as the one Verkerk plays in?
You could read the same about the international winner jrl Narbonne, the successful combination Batenburg vd Merwe. They also, like more and more champions, always feed the same mixture.
Talk about not making things difficult.

[NeilA]

Not sure on that Murray
I do think a slightly higher easily digestible protein helps after a difficult flight
I also find the birds do recover well on certain supplements a little quicker than without any

[MIL]

Funny how in a bad/hard race fanciers who have big drops each week really struggle for returns. They possibly get a small number together then the rest struggle. I would say that this is because most of the birds in these big drops are just followers and once detached from their loft mates they struggle.

And I would say Andy that you've very little appreciation of the effort and skill that a fancier puts in in order to get good multiple drops consistently.

2 guys who I help are Gordon Bros and Jimmy Dutton. Both very good at getting multiple drops regularly (and winning).

They're on their knees at the moment from the sheer effort needed (both physical and mental)

Early mornings, off the garden by 8am with all work and training done. I tell them 5 weeks more and you can rest for 6 months.

They don't look for excuses

[MIL]

Take posts Mikes he put on
Now that blokes tried to help you he’ will help anyone that wants to win
He helped me
It’s golden advice
Yet you post how fanciers who get a good drop don’t get them on crap days
But you never and you don’t get them in good days
You have made reason after reason not to try Mikes advice not even a 5 mile training toss 3 nights that I said try
Yet have a pop at people who get a drop
That’s not right is it

Don't worry about it Neil

Andy neither wants nor takes my advice so he's had the last of any of that - regardless of how successful (or unsuccessful) those methods that he adopts are

[MIL]

ANOTHER ONE
I am often cynical about the frequent but completely unnecessary use of supplements.
That won't make any friends among the sellers of that stuff, but it will make people who stop giving away junk only to find that it was not only good for their wallets, they also started playing better.
Top players such as Ebben, Verkerk, de Bruijn, Thijs and vd Wouwer in particular tried products in the past that would improve form. Useless! 'Yes, but long distance is something else', I hear some people think.
AND THEN FUND?
The young stuntman on the marathon flights, Sil van Vliet, proves the opposite.
There are no supplements, recovery agents or useless medicines for his stunt pilots on the marathon flights. And where does one know a program that is as tough as the one Verkerk plays in?
You could read the same about the international winner jrl Narbonne, the successful combination Batenburg vd Merwe. They also, like more and more champions, always feed the same mixture.
Talk about not making things difficult.

1 question for you Murray

You know horses

If you visited Willie Mullins's stables who's the No.1 outfit over here in the UK do you think you'd find the use of supplements in operation at his horse yard (Yes/No)

[Murray]

No.

[Murray]

The testing regime is so intense that you cannot give a racehorse an Asprin.

[NeilA]

The testing regime is so intense that you cannot give a racehorse an Asprin.

Surely Mike means supplement that have passed the various testing and are safe / approved