As you know, eyes are not my thing. As long as they've got of them that's primarliy all I'm interested in really
That being said, when I'm on Nights I often mooch around obscure websites and read random articles
I visited this website some months ago and thought I'd do so again tonight
You can't help but say these birds had really expressive eyes on them
https://machielbuijk.nl/old-generation/
Eyes
I myself didn't buy into eyesign. There were eyes I liked and those I didn't. In the 70s when I began racing this eyesign thing was big. Not so much today. Back then there were a few very well known eyesign 'experts' ALL were better known for 'eyesign' than they were for racing. I attended a few events where I found the subject very interesting, but was still not convinced there was anything in it. Brian May was really on the ball and made a very good case for it, especially when he talked about human eyes as well.
I've since learnt that eye colour, like feather colour is genetic, and the colour can only appear if the correct genes are present.
I've since learnt that eye colour, like feather colour is genetic, and the colour can only appear if the correct genes are present.
I am not a student of eye sign either. So long as they have one on both sides of their heads, that does me. That said, there are some that appear to have an intelligent expression, and seem to be taking everything in. And of course when they are in super health it shows in the eyes, what I guess you would call 'vitality'.
I do tend to grade them more on 'feet sign'. The one whose feet hits the board first
I do tend to grade them more on 'feet sign'. The one whose feet hits the board first

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Murray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:17 am I am not a student of eye sign either. So long as they have one on both sides of their heads, that does me. That said, there are some that appear to have an intelligent expression, and seem to be taking everything in. And of course when they are in super health it shows in the eyes, what I guess you would call 'vitality'.
I do tend to grade them more on 'feet sign'. The one whose feet hits the board first![]()



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I was very keen on eyesign back in the 80s. There are still things I look for in the eye but I would use it more for breeding purposes. What to pair to what on the strength of the eyesign. But yes certainly the most important criteria is racing performance. Having said that my best ever breeding hen was rubbish at racing but had a super eyesign. I don’t use it so much nowadays as my eye, ones no good anyway after a detached retina, isn’t the best. To see eyesign properly you need good eyes, an eye glass and a bright light, sun light is best.
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He still takes a good photo George, great to hear he popped down to see you mate.George and Morgan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:05 am i like having a folder on all my birds eyes also Morgan 16 now has been taking my birds eyes since he was 10 i have 5 latebreds when he was here yesterday he took photos of there eyes this is one of the latebreds
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yes Dev had a lot to do he was there to help me
I would like to add that while I don't follow eye sign to select my pigeons, I know many successful people have, and still do. I am not so successful that I can criticize what systems other fanciers use. 

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