What’s people’s views on ACV
I haven’t used it for years but I do use a product to lower the PH in my water
Do members use it for this purpose or for other health benefits or do you consider it pointless
Apple cider vinegar
Morning Neil
On the advice of the best pigeon man I ever met I used to give our birds ACV for a prolonged period of time
At the rate of 5 ml per 2 litre drinker you can give with no fear about any damage to the internal organs (most notably the liver)
I used to buy an Organic one from the Supermarket.
Like you, I try and get Phil to use the lowering of the PH in the water (the racers are on it today).
On the advice of the best pigeon man I ever met I used to give our birds ACV for a prolonged period of time
At the rate of 5 ml per 2 litre drinker you can give with no fear about any damage to the internal organs (most notably the liver)
I used to buy an Organic one from the Supermarket.
Like you, I try and get Phil to use the lowering of the PH in the water (the racers are on it today).
Is it Salguard you use, if so that is what I use especially when going on holiday helps keep water fresh, used to use ACV but for a very long time
Sadies Lofts home of decent birds just a useless loft manager, and now a confirmed loser but proud



Cheers MikeMIL wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:21 am Morning Neil
On the advice of the best pigeon man I ever met I used to give our birds ACV for a prolonged period of time
At the rate of 5 ml per 2 litre drinker you can give with no fear about any damage to the internal organs (most notably the liver)
I used to buy an Organic one from the Supermarket.
Like you, I try and get Phil to use the lowering of the PH in the water (the racers are on it today).
I think I might change from my normal product to it
I swear by apple cider vinegar. It is a great thing to promote the health of the birds, especially if combined with fresh garlic.
The pigeons are always in brilliant health so it does them no harm
Three times a week I crush a clove of garlic and put it in a bottle of lukewarm water. several hours later I strain out the garlic, add 10 ml of natural ACV and dilute it to make 3 litres. The pigeons are always in brilliant health so it does them no harm

Greetings from the land down under. 
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.

Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.
Also, at least once a week I throw some vegetables in the blender and give it to them.
I also give them a fish oil capsule squeezed on the grain about once a week. They have white wattles and lovely soft plumage.
First of all they love the veggies, and it is a good way to give them the vitamins and minerals and trace elements which can be missing from a grain diet. I also give them a fish oil capsule squeezed on the grain about once a week. They have white wattles and lovely soft plumage.

Greetings from the land down under. 
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.

Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.
So your system is more health related than to lower the PHMurray wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:15 am I swear by apple cider vinegar. It is a great thing to promote the health of the birds, especially if combined with fresh garlic.003.JPG
Three times a week I crush a clove of garlic and put it in a bottle of lukewarm water. several hours later I strain out the garlic, add 10 ml of natural ACV and dilute it to make 3 litres.
The pigeons are always in brilliant health so it does them no harm![]()
That’s a good one with the garlic in
I used to get one with honey in but I’m going back a long while now